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Post by jimbo1974 on Apr 15, 2010 14:18:51 GMT 1
HI CAN ANY ONE HELP OR ADVISE AS TO THE HISTORY OF A VERY DIFFRENT STYLE OF WHITE METAL LINKED VICKERS BELT, THE BELT IS 250 ROUND FULLY LINKED & VERY LIGHT WEIGHT, THE LEATHER STARTER TAB IS FULLY STAMPED AND WD MARKED AND DATED FOR 1916, COULD THIS BE A VARENT FOR AERO USE??? ANY HELP WOULD BE GREATFULLY RECIVED Attachments:
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Post by Richard Fisher on Apr 19, 2010 22:07:50 GMT 1
Hi there,
I think the silence tells you that this is not something we've seen before. I'd appreciate it is you could send a photo of the tab and the markings on it. Also, does it fit a .303-inch round well?
Thanks,
Richard
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Post by jimbo1974 on Apr 20, 2010 8:36:10 GMT 1
Hi many thanks for the intrest, the leather starter tab is fully stamped HRD 1916 into the leather, it is also WD stamped and marked A this is in ink stamped on the back of the leather tab. there are no markings to the beltl inks. the belt fits neaty the 303 rounds, as shown. there is some damage to the metal on the last few links but apart from that is is tip top condition. hoping this info will ade you further? james Attachments:
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Post by jimbo1974 on Apr 20, 2010 8:37:39 GMT 1
more pic's as requested Attachments:
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Post by jimbo1974 on Apr 20, 2010 8:42:05 GMT 1
the leather tab is quite long, the wd stamp & A are normall found on most RFC items watches tools ect, the HRD markings i have seen used on army type issue leather work. if this is of any further help many thanks james Attachments:
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Post by andrewupton on Apr 21, 2010 0:13:48 GMT 1
Hi many thanks for the intrest, the leather starter tab is fully stamped HRD 1916 into the leather, it is also WD stamped and marked A this is in ink stamped on the back of the leather tab. there are no markings to the beltl inks. the belt fits neaty the 303 rounds, as shown. there is some damage to the metal on the last few links but apart from that is is tip top condition. "HRD" is in fact HGR - "Hepburn, Gale and Ross", a prolific manufacturer of leather items during WW1. It is also the fakers mark of choice for applying to copies of items. To me, this belt doesn't look right for the period - without the date, I'd have suggested a WW2 if not post-war date. |
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Post by bmg17a1 on Apr 25, 2010 3:49:41 GMT 1
The belt shown is not for the Vickers, but for the Turkish Maxims, although they will function in the Vickers. These are aluminum and often have corroded links making them quite fragile. With use in the Maxims, the rounds also tend to shake out of the belt as they approach the feedblock while firing. There is a steel version of this belt, that is identical and is far more durable.
International Military Antiques, the US arm of Firepower International, imported a large quantity of steel and aluminum belts in this style some years ago. Since the belts accompanied a quantity of Maxim 08 parts, tripods and other MG08 equipment, it is assumed they were for the Maxims.
Bob Naess
Black river Militaria CII
USA
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Post by Richard Fisher on Oct 5, 2010 16:15:28 GMT 1
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Post by missingsomething on Oct 6, 2010 14:42:18 GMT 1
Yep.. Turkish maxim belts... Post WW1 to post WW2.... they are for 8mm but will work with .303 (sloppily) and Yes they work in Maxims and Vickers.... as Bob stated previously ;D
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