oprod
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Post by oprod on Feb 5, 2011 15:11:09 GMT 1
Here is some pics of an armor chest plate. It has two hooks along the bottom and a ridge on the shoulder piece. Unlike any I have seen before. Is anyone familiar with this? Is it german, french or other? Is it ww1 or or is it older? The guy has it for sale for about 1000. us dollars. is that about right? He claims the hooks are for carring am mg08/15 and the piece on the shoulder supports the stock... I dont know about that.   |
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Post by andrewupton on Feb 5, 2011 18:52:36 GMT 1
Here is some pics of an armor chest plate. It has two hooks along the bottom and a ridge on the shoulder piece. Unlike any I have seen before. Is anyone familiar with this? Is it german, french or other? Is it ww1 or or is it older? The guy has it for sale for about 1000. us dollars. is that about right? He claims the hooks are for carring am mg08/15 and the piece on the shoulder supports the stock... I dont know about that. It is the top plate of the German WW1 steel body armour, issued primarily to sentries who had to remain in exposed positions during bombardments and similar. Often sold as "sniper" kit, mostly to enhance the value as they are extremely heavy, cumbersome, and really not conducive to anything more than standing about in. US$1000 is waaay too much. It is missing the lower three plates to protect the groin and lower chest that would have been rivetted to straps attached to the loops on the inside. The shoulder piece is to enable a sentries rifle butt to get a grip against the metal when fired, and the hooks allow the standard German webbing to be worn over the top (otherwise you wouldn't be able to access the ammo pouches under the plates easily). If I recall correctly this is the earliest version, most later types omitting them (I might be wrong, and this is the later type with modifications to overcome webbing and rifle problems). Sounds like the seller has enhanced its use to improve the value. This one looks original, but I should point out these have been extensively reproduced/faked. Some links that might be of interest: webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:DAV6eMK-mxYJ:www.whenshtf.com/showthread.php%3F12939-Body-armor-What-do-you-like/page5+german+ww1+sentry+armour&cd=11&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&source=www.google.co.ukwww.landships.freeservers.com/jpegs_new/number_8/ger_plate1.jpgwww.landships.freeservers.com/jpegs/new_unifs/german%20body%20amour.jpgwww.diggerhistory.info/pages-equip/german.htm |
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Post by peterc on Dec 26, 2011 23:29:20 GMT 1
Oprod, given the time frame since you first posted this my comments are probably irrelevant, however;
Like many things prices can vary with geography. Down here in Australia, a complete German Trench Armour (Grabenpanzer) set will pull between $2000 to $4000. Unlike in Europe, these sets are quite rare. As Andrew mentions the Breast plate you showed is the top section of a four piece ensemble. It was common for the Breast plate to be separated from the lower portions for ease of wearing. The type you show with rifle butt support and two hooks is the second model, I have never seen that type here for sale previously and would have bought it for $1000 without hesitation! The remaining plates, either still connected by their straps or as single pieces do appear from time to time, so not impossible to build a complete rig. regards, Peter.
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