SMLE Cup Discharger

[ramc181]

Not in the UK, off the top of my head, but Michel Clements in Holland had a few last time I visited his shop.

Hope that helps, at least it's in the EEC.

Paul

[1988rrc]

I think I still have a few laying around.........I will look if you are still interested.

[privatefjordy]

Hi 1988rrc

They would need to be in the UK for supply to the dealer, but I'm guessing they are in the USA? Importing them would be too much hassle.

Thanks anyway.

[1988rrc]

yes i am in the USA.

[erikthecat]

hi,
i'm looking for...
smle mills 36 launcher cups, do you still have any for sale?
do you have any images / web site / further information?
many thanks for your time.
regards,
GaRy:) in the UK

PS was communicating with a member of the forum, but sadly no progress:(, i'm assuming a US supplier would cause importing issues?! :(

[privatefjordy]

Gary.

DO NOT attempt to import a cup-discharger from the USA, or Europe, or indeed try buying one here in the UK. They are Section 5. and a visit from the police is likely.

I originally started this thread looking for one that a dealer could import for me, but even the Section 5 dealers that i spoke to said they would not import one. All agreed that they are Section 5, as the cup is pressure bearing, unlike the sheet metal WW1 type used with rodded grenades, that merely holds the clip in place whilst the grenade is discharged.

I have subsequently located and purchased a UK deactivated cup-discharger, with London Proof House certificate. I know of one other that has been suitably deactivated and certificated by a UK proof house. Sadly that one is not for sale. The deactivation standard is the same as that applied to a mortar.

[erikthecat]

privatefjordy.

thanks for your post.

section 5?
find an active cup discharger, find a suitable active SMLE to attach it to, find an active mills grenade, find a live blank charge.
easy?!.. but what do i know? :)

now i'm interested, would you have any images of your cup that you could share? what kind of deactivation would be required, do you images show what is required?

is there such a thing as a repro SMLE Cup Discharger?

thanks for your time.

GaRy:)

[privatefjordy]

Gary.

Photo of the UK deactivated and certificated cup-discharger. The cup is pinned and has a ring welded part way down the cup as well. The same standard as a UK deactivated mortar.


Photo of an inert drill Mills 36M body that has been cut to allow it to be displayed inside the cup.


Photo of the cup-discharger with the cut inert drill grenade.


Photo of the cup-discharger displayed on a wire bound UK deactivated SMLE. The wire binding is enamelled radio wire, wrapped and soldered as per an original. Both the SMLE and the Cup-Discharger have their own UK deactivation certificates.

[missingsomething]

Nice set up

[erikthecat]

WOW!
Yeah a nice set-up indeed.
together with some very nice images.
Jesus! you've gone to some trouble there!
it must have taken you ages, how many attempts to get it right?
if you don't mind, how much is the complete example worth?
it's okay, i'm sitting down:)

i still think the law is an ass in this particular case:(

...and always, these has to be a question, sorry.
what was the wire for?
i've seen it on other images too, strengthening?

thanks for sharing your images.

regards,

GaRy:)

[privatefjordy]

Yes it was time consuming. It took months of searching to find a legal cup-discharger.

Finding an SMLE wasn't too hard.

I calculated the length of wire required by binding the stock with string of the same guage as the wire, then measuring 1) the overall length of the string, 2) the length at each end that would give the same number of turns for the soldered part, based on a set of photos of an original example.

The enamelled radio wire was obtained through eBay.

Stripping the enamelling from the ends of the wire with wet and dry paper was very time consuming, not to say boring as anything, then it was fairly simple to tin the stripped length with soft solder.

Binding the stock was very trying on my fingers, as I had to maintain tension by hand whilst wrapping the full length of the wire. I believe originals were machine wrapped in a jig.

Soldering the tinned ends of the wire was straight forward, and no, I didn't burn the stock.

I've no idea what the complete setup is worth, as I don't know of any other that has been offered for sale, and I've certainly no intention of selling this one. I know what the deactivated cup-discharger cost me, and it was slightly less than the deactivated SMLE, so you could say overall cost was twice the price of a deactivated SMLE.

Like I said in a previous post, I know of only one other legally deactivated cup-discharger, and I know that the owner of that one would not sell it.

[privatefjordy]

Forgot to say, the wire was to re-enforce the stock to prevent splitting. This was because the cup-discharger attaches to the nose cap of the rifle, not the barrel. The correct fitting instructions require that the cup-discharger is backed of from the muzzle slightly to allow for expansion of a hot barrel, therefore the recoil of the cup-discharger is transmitted directly into the stock via the nose cap.