13.2mm Boys

[Kev]

Can anyone tell me some more about this 13.2mm Boys AT gun ?

[missingsomething]

I dont remember seeing anything on other calibers for the Boys (Boyes) just..

.55 Boys (13.9 x 99B)
or AKA : 14 x 99 (in finland)

[privatefjordy]

British Small Arms by Ian Skennerton mentions the following, that are not your normal .55 Boys.

7.11.40 Boys barrels; bores under .5505-in Quantity 6.

Also mentions;
17.12.38 Boys .55/303 sub calibre B.S.A. Qty 1
8.12.42 Exp. Boys rifle .55/303 B.S.A. Qty 1
13.7.43 Exp. Boys rifle .55/303 B.S.A. Qty 1
29.5.45 Boys barrels, exp smoothbore Qty 1

[privatefjordy]

Could be that the 13.2mm calibre stated in Kev's post is the 13.2 x 99 Hotchkiss round. Dimensions of which are on here; members.shaw.ca/cstein0/metric.htm

[britplumber]

My Boyes has a smooth barrel.

[privatefjordy]

britplumber said:

My Boyes has a smooth barrel.

Smoothed postwar perhaps to allow ownership on a Shotgun Certificate rather than a Firearms Certificate?

[tom]

Thats one hell of a duck / punt gun!

;-{D)

ATB

Tom

[Kev]

I have managed to find some info on this thanks to Tony Edwards (MR BRITISH SERVICE ROUND) who has helped me out in the past.

The 13.2mm Boys AT was a BSA commercial development just before the 2nd WW (1938?) The ammunition was unique to the gun and made by Kynock in small quantities and was headstamped as 13.2mm.The round was very similar to the Boys AT round .The 13.2 Hotchkiss and 13mm Mauser TuF being different.

The Boys in question is for sale (seller not known to me) and I believe it is live at the momment.May be of interest to Boys/AT gun collectors out there ?

[missingsomething]

Thats why I love this group..... learn something new all the time
Now to find a picture of the round....

[Kev]

I'm working on getting a picture of the round,will post if availlable.
The ammo expert ,Tony Edwards knows where there is some but unfortunatly hasn't got one himself as he only collects service rounds and this calibre is contract.The Boys is on Conjays site www.conjay.com/Guntrade%20Products.htm who I believe bought up the ammo from Kynocks magazine years ago.

As a matter of interest the have quite an interesting ammunition recognition site thats worth a look -
www.conjay.com/Armor%20Products.htm

And some more AT guns inc gepard /destroyer -
www.conjay.com/Collectors%20Weapons.htm

www.conjay.com/Deactivated%20Weapons.htm

[Kev]

Just an update on the Boys AT gun (for anyone who's interested)-

Mr Tony Edwards has kindly unearthed some more info about it and passed it on, the calibre is infact 13.3mm NOT 13.2mm.Headstamp pic below.

The round is identical to look at to the Boys .55 inch. It is however marginally smaller in calibre by about 23 thou. The Boys has a bullet diameter of .574" and a neck diameter for the case of about .602", whilst the 13.3 has a bullet diameter of about .548 and a case neck of .574".