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Post by story on Apr 7, 2006 14:04:59 GMT 1
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Post by britplumber on Apr 7, 2006 16:25:08 GMT 1
That is a top quality bit of machining! Wish I was a competent machineist, I love the quality !
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Post by horsa (David Gordon) on Apr 9, 2006 23:38:51 GMT 1
Anyone know how they plan to make the weapon semi-auto only? As far as ATF is concerned, the semi-ONLY design would have to be approved for people to manufacture their own weapons. Typically would mean original full auto parts not being interchangable.  |
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Post by story on Apr 14, 2006 3:55:52 GMT 1
Anyone know how they plan to make the weapon semi-auto only? As far as ATF is concerned, the semi-ONLY design would have to be approved for people to manufacture their own weapons. Typically would mean original full auto parts not being interchangable. BATFE approved semi-automatic designs for the Bren are about three years old. HISTORIC ARMS offers a commercial product and there's a couple of home-build plans that folks are pursuing. brenlmg.com/groupee/forums/a/cfrm/f/6056044983 |
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Post by horsa (David Gordon) on Apr 23, 2006 4:52:41 GMT 1
Yep, I know about Historic Arms version as I own Number 43. What I was asking was if the people had their own semi-auto ATF approved design. Historic Arms S/A uses a unique method to keep it from ever being made full auto and it is likely a sealed design that he has the sole rights to reproduce right now.
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Post by Kev on Apr 23, 2006 8:36:28 GMT 1
Hi David,is that the Bren used for illustration puposes in your 'Tommy' book ?
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Post by horsa (David Gordon) on Apr 23, 2006 22:49:45 GMT 1
The Mark II in the book is the semi from Historic Arms. Its all WWII including the receiver but they modified the inside for the ATF certified/legal use along with an altered bolt and firing pin system. Everything breaks down and is essentially the same but it won't go full auto. Feeds and shoots great and I've had it on the 800 yard range on our ranch in south Texas.
The Mark I in the book is a dewat now but was live at one time while it was residing with a licensed machine gun dealer.
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Post by Kev on Apr 23, 2006 23:04:23 GMT 1
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Post by horsa (David Gordon) on Apr 24, 2006 4:18:46 GMT 1
Sorry...must have missed the other thread but have updated it now.
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Post by tom on Apr 24, 2006 11:23:01 GMT 1
Hi David
unfortunately the details are trapped on a drive I formatted currently but the book on the the resupply at Arnhem (whats it called again Kev?) stated 170 (?) dropped which allowing for a establisment of one tripod for every 3 Brens (about normal for infantry units towards the end of the war?) means that there were enough for several brigades, if not the whole division (could somebody do the maths, say one for every infanty platoon employed?)
The big stumbling block is the lack of photographic evidence, which I suspect was due to them being dropped outside the perimeter as well as the general shortage of pics from Arnhem.
I've had a mate over in Holland asking about them, they are still excavating various buried dumps of war material there so you never know they may turn some up one day! I was hoping that the Germans would have done some photographs of captured material for Signal or some such but nobodies come forward so far.
Does anyone know of similar documentation for the Rhine crossing resupply or establishment / equipment for the Para units going out to Burma as the war ended out there?
Personally I've always considered the Bren tripod a useless bit of kit with few if any real tactical uses, as a AA mounting especially it was a joke. Which doesn't mean I don't want em for the collection I hasten to add!
ATB
Tom
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Post by Richard Fisher on Apr 24, 2006 11:55:58 GMT 1
Do you mean 'Arnhem - The Fight to Sustain' by Frank Steer?
There is one of the Mk. 2* tripods hanging on the back of a jeep in the Hartenstein Museum but I don't know where they got it from. I remember noticing it when I was there in 2004.
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Post by tom on Apr 24, 2006 12:36:36 GMT 1
Thats the book! Cheers!
I think its the Hartenstein Museum that my Dutch mate knows the curator of, I'll ask him to poke about.
ATB
Tom
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Post by Richard Fisher on Apr 24, 2006 13:18:43 GMT 1
I think it is Dr. Adrian Groeneweg who is the curator. I have met him a couple of times when I have been over there. I don't have a copy of The Fight to Sustain any more as I sold it a couple of months back but it does have some interesting information in the back of it.
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Post by tom on Apr 24, 2006 13:39:32 GMT 1
Hi Richard,
the names familiar so I think I have acces to the chap, I'll see what turns up.
I've found a copy of the page that lists the stores dropped and it is 170 of the things.
Also dropped where;
162 2" mortars, Airlanding
12 No. 4 Ts
52 3" mortars with modified base plates
87 PIATs and even 6 Vickers GOs
I notice whats possbly a typo
Vickers LMG .303", MMG surely? Don't tell me they were sending V-Bs! ;-{D)
ATB
Tom
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Post by Kev on Apr 24, 2006 15:24:40 GMT 1
Glad Richard knew which book it was out of as I only have a copy of the page  (will make a note of it for reference) -  |
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